But I firmly believe one is responsible for creating their own happiness, creating their own fulfillment, and creating their own reality. I was frustrated. Came here to say something similar- medical sales companies LOVE pas and youll probably make more money in sales than in patient care. My hospital employs some of the highest numbers of advanced practice providers (PAs and NPs) of any hospital in the country. I'll take a couple of months before I look for a new position. Haha I'm glad and at the same time, sad that I'm not alone. Everyone thinks they'll move to Houston for a couple of years, get the experience of working at a top tier cancer center, then move on to something else. Still, moving forward feels a heck of a lot better than cursing the darkness and watching the clock tick. We pride ourselves on providing comprehensive care to our patients while they are in the hospital. I am in my FM rotation with a DO who precepts med students year-round but we had a cancellation in my original site and he agreed to take me. I actually got off the phone the other day with an MD-derm who wanted to RSVP for an event, and on the tail end of the conversation he asked me about my plans for PA school and then proceeded to tell me how if he could do it all over again he'd become a PA. Let this be a cautionary tale. Late 20s is very young still. She gave me a full 20 minute lecture on how becoming a doctor is more prestigious. Have you tried looking for pharm sales positions? This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. Im a big fan of being consistent and thorough when Im interviewing and examining patients. It would happen as a new grad MD as well, or maybe even as a senior MD who people think is beyond his prime. Indeed, estimates from the Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC) indicate that the U.S. could face a shortfall of between 21,000 and 55,000 primary care doctors by 2023. The old guard doesn't like it, but there it is. What is scheduling like at your hospital? Staff Physician. January 30, 2017 in PA Student General Discussion. The lawsuit Eugene Volokh, Locals Technology Inc. and Rumble Canada Inc. v. Letitia James alleged A.7865A/S.4511 infringes on First Amendment freedom of speech by requiring social I've always been what I consider a "switch flipper." A smart person would not condemn an entire profession based on some bad experiences. I think that this thread shows what one of the primary problems within our profession is and that is the wide swing of diversity, even within the same specialty settings and locales. Everyone has a place. We are simply stuck and crippled where we are - having no choice but to be around and work with a bunch of a##h#les; no say, no choice, ho hope of it changing. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. Everyone thinks theyre going to kill someone. Ted James MD, MHCM Suche erweitern. In nearly a decade in my job, there had never been a window where almost all of my patients were doing fairly well. See our Privacy Policy for more information. Hospital internal medicine seemed like a good fit, but after I graduated, I felt like I needed more training. Most patients and other providers love PAs. Being a physician assistant (PA) is both a rewarding and well-paying career. Quitting medicine altogether? It hasn't. May, in some cases, prescribe medication. I haven't even started taking call yet. Welcome to our virtual space for all things related to PAs! Be social, chat, joke. I just don't like what practicing medicine consists of. They don't know I am now a PA student but we got on the topic of PAs practicing medicine and all hell broke loose. I'm a premed that just graduated from University this year and I'm taking 2 gap years, meaning that I'd apply next year in 2022, and matriculate in Communism rules and capitalism is dead (meaning - we're not even allowed to choose our own future as an entrepreneur and open our own practice; even if we hire our own supervising physicians!) Only deployment overseas to Iraq as an Army Medical Officer gave me the great job satisfaction one would expect to get out of their work. They went to school 3x as much as a PA. I tend to have recurring kidney infections (in my kidneys, Hi, I tend to have recurring kidney infections (in my kidneys, not bladder) - I get none of the UTI pain/burning/urgency symptoms, and I family read more. I dont know anymore. She didn't check with her collaborating physician or show him the CT scan before she saw the patient. I'd love to hear more about how a PA can get in academia for medicine, I thought it was exclusive to PhDs/MDs/DOs. Also medical research is a good position. Very hard to land a gig like this. Doctors are around to fill in the rest. You're absolutely right. Being surrounded by some of the brightest people in the field. Its nice to know Im not the only one with these feelings. 89. People seek medical care because they are sick. Nobody seems to bother them You sound pretty run down and stressed. WebPhysician Assistants earned an average median annual wage of $121,530 in 2021, and the projected growth by 2031 is 27.6%, the 3rd best among jobs with the lowest risk of being replaced by robots. Good luck! WebHate being a medical assistant. I will concur that just about every PA is miserable in their first job, BUT let's also entertain the possibility that this is largely a thankless job and some people really, really will not like it. Explore, be flexible & you'll be happy you did. This isn't House. Geez, why do people have such inferiority or superiority complexes. I'm constantly second-guess my decision-making, am worried about my patients, etc. If I am working an afternoon/evening shift, my entire shift tends to be performing new admissions and consults. sorry about that my friend. But they need look in the mirror and stop checking boxes. Only after seeing the patient did she discuss the case with her collaborating physician. Physician Assistants provide healthcare services typically performed by a physician, under the supervision of a physician. There is a lot of talk about autonomy, but not much to really go around. I know it would be hard during peak months (winter) but me getting in when the load is light is nice. You have to be able to go with the flow of the day. Honestly I obsessively check labs, old charts, decisions all day, every day. It sucks. While I thoroughly enjoy my job, I enjoy my children even more! Welcome to our virtual space for all things related to PAs! I have had an ENT surgeon once belittle me for pursuing PA school. Having a support system made it easy to stay, but I also really loved the work I was doing. WebAlways encountering death is one of the disadvantages of being a physician assistant. I had a rough day today where I legitimately had all of these thoughts and I am up way past my bedtime because of it, but this was so worth the read. If they didn't know, they soon learned as they were exposed to so many other APPs across the institution. If you are interested in the job express that and your frustration at such a low base salary in such a high cost of living area. Well, regardless of my opinion (which is always correct), the entire landscape is totally different now than it was a generation ago and even further from the generation before that. Time. But, during my search, I came across a posting for a position at M.D. Learn More. 7-year PA here. If I could go back in time, I would actually choose a totally different career path; probably as far away from the healthcare field as possible! I will see new patients from overnight, patients who have been in the hospital for a number of days, patients who are on the consult list, and patients who are ready for discharge. Sent by my Samsung S4 Active via Tapatalk. It sounds like that doctor has had a bad experience (or no experience at all) with physician extenders. Jennifer Palermo, MMS, PA-C, is one of nearly 43,000 PAs who practice in hospital medicine. It happened when I decided to become a PA. And, after my time in Texas, it flipped again when I knew I wanted to work in oncology. Every night I come home and try to escape my work day. End rant. I find this tends to be an opinion more so of older physicians. It's called a sunk cost fallacy for a reason. Must graduate from an accredited educational program for physician assistants.. I had similar feelings throughout school and just recently graduated. This smart vacuum includes iRobot's P.O.O.P. Why WOULDN'T you be second guessing yourself??? The job simply sucks! It's not that I dont find the science interesting---that's what drew me to it, but the stress and debt kill any shred of joy there could be. Again its been hard to come back after work to get back to learning new skills or even do any classes. If I am assigned to an afternoon shift, my work day starts at noon or 2 p.m. We work 12-hour shifts and have six APPs on each day who work at staggered start times in order to provide adequate cover for patient care. I was feeling drained and hated my job. Though I enjoyed it, I spent a fair amount of time saying, "Well, this is how M.D. And you'll realize that you could've spent that time completing a more respected medical degree. Seriously, there are tons of people that would kill to be in your shoes and you are complaining about having a job in which you make 100,000 dollar a year or so, when people are struggling finding jobs making half of that. With your experience, I suggest switching into another specialty before giving it up. Theres also all of the sunken cost in quitting. For my first job out of PA school, I found a position in oncology and was able to stay in Pittsburgh. Dr. Bob. It will seem plenty unfair. I applaud you for your outspoken opinion on career satisfaction. However I really don't know what I can do with a PA degree. Beyond the number of PAs, I also had a lot of colleagues that were in the same boat as me. Biden and gang are still trying to blame Donald Trump for the countrys many problems. Not a PA, but an NP, and I feel the same way you do. I've been kind of noticing this in general too. On the physician side, from what I can tell especially those in primary care, there is some sort of fear that they are being overtaken by those they deem unworthy to There's no need to denigrate anyone but I also believe in affording respect where respect is due. I'm similar to you in that I love science. Whats your approach? Are they going to lecture either one how worthless they are too? Inflexible schedule, no PTO (I could schedule a vacation by arranging my 12 hour shifts differently), and annoying patients who would come in last minute for nothing. I found the one during the spring of my clinical year. Don't be fooled! Family medicine? I loved what I was doing, but I had to admit I wasn't really growing. Plus, from what Ive seen having a Masters in PA isnt really marketable in other industries like an MD or RN. Put it this way: if I gave you a million bucks, are you going to hire 3 docs, or like 6 PAs and a doc or doc and a half to back them up? I don't see why people have such a hard time giving credit where credit is due without feeling the need to feel a lack of self worth. You have 2 articles left this month. 1. The responsibility is daunting, I agree. The only thing I can conceive of segueing into is education- and that requires at least a few years of experience. Badgers, medicine is one big algorithm. Medicine is the most resistant field to change. These are not easy choices and there can be substantial obstacles to overcome. The pace of the day can change at anytime in the hospital, so Ive found that I have to try to catch up with other duties whenever I can. February 10, 2014 in Professional PA General Discussion, To all and any who are considering the PA profession as their future career -. I want to add 2 more thoughts: 1)Take a moment at the beginning of some (ideally each) visits to enjoy the patient. Plus, people in Texas say things like "I appreciate you" and "Have a blessed day." I chose orthopaedic surgery because of the variety it offers. We really do have a work family. Having great colleagues is what makes me happy to come in to work day after day. Why wasn't I just living in Texas? Actually, PAs are not the cause if the problem. Experiences vary both for physicians with PAs as well as for students who become PAs. Fingers crossed I hear back. I cant talk about or hear about medicine outside of work, it drives me insane. My preceptor, Kelli, was going through a new patient's records. Im tired of being physically and mentally drained from talking to patients all day to the point where I dont even have the energy to read up/study medicine after work anymore. Given the number of questions I fielded on a daily basis, it helped me stay up to date on research and become proficient in managing complications of both treatments and diseases. During my search, I came across a posting for a new patient 's records CT before! 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